Benedict called the conservative Catholics "fanatics".

Some hardline conservatives Catholics are unhappy with Pope Francis and have often voiced doubts about whether Benedict stepped down willingly.

"Some of my more fanatical friends are still upset, they have not accepted my choice," he told Italian daily Corriere della Sera in an interview, at the Vatican's Mater Ecclesiae.

"There aren't two popes, the pope is the only one," Benedict emphasised.

The spectacle of having two living popes, one "emeritus" has led to constant rumors about Benedict's relationship with his successor.

Chiding the fanatical supporters Benedict said those who believe there are two popes are opposed to Church teaching.

Benedict said those nursing conspiracy theories are failing to respect his conscience.

"It was a difficult decision. (To resign.) But it was a fully conscious choice and I think I did well."

"They don't want to believe that it was a conscious choice."

"My conscience is clear," he said.

Benedict also took the opportunity to address the election of US President, Joe Biden.

Biden "is an observing Catholic and he is personally against abortion," Benedict said, referring to a point of contention that has arisen among the American bishops since Biden's election.

"But as president, he tends to present himself in continuity with the line of the Democratic Party....and on gender policy, we still don't really understand what his position is," said Benedict.

The presence in the Vatican of both a pope and a former pontiff - with the title "pope emeritus", both wearing white - has irritated some Catholics.

Leading church figures, including papal loyalist, Cardinal George Pell have called for new rules stipulating the status and dress of retired popes.

In 2013 Benedict for the first time in about 600 years, Benedict became the first pope to resign instead of dying in office.

The interview was published on March 1 to coincide with his resignation.

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They were there to pray together and share a fine meal over a glass of Cabernet Francis — all in an effort to overcome polarisation.

In the Catholic world, it's hard to imagine an unlikelier pair than Tim Busch and the Rev. Jim Martin.

A successful businessman and entrepreneur, Busch founded the Napa Institute in 2011 to combat secularisation in the Church and uphold conservative values.

Martin, the editor-at-large of the Jesuit magazine "America" is best known for his Outreach programme, aimed at promoting inclusivity and welcome for LGBTQ+ members of the Catholic community.

Together, these two representatives of opposing factions in the Church have created a framework for dialogue, even friendship, among priests, activists and journalists who would otherwise be arguing over divisive theological issues on social media.

Busch contacted Martin and asked for his help to bring left leaning Catholics to the table and today the two speak regularly to work on common issues and think of ways to bring their dinner experiment to U.S. parishes.

The dinners started in late 2023, as Busch became increasingly concerned with rising political polarisation in the U.S. and the deepening fractures he saw mirrored in the Catholic Church.

Of course, in the minds of many liberal Catholics, Busch is partly responsible for those fractures, having hosted gatherings at the Napa Institute where some of the most vocal conservative Catholic voices in the U.S. railed against woke-ism and liberal ideologies.

By this year's annual summer gathering of the Napa Institute, held July 24-28 at the Meritage Resort and Spa in Napa, California, Busch had struck a new tone, urging Catholics during his keynote speech to leave the culture wars behind and to "stop hating and start loving."

Busch has hosted four dinners, with 40 guests so far, and plans to host three more this year.

"We are not there to debate or have a theological conversation, although it's not prohibited, it's just not the primary goal," Busch told Religion News Service in an interview on Monday (July 29).

"After all, we all share the same beliefs on 95 percent of the issues," he added.

Pray, eat, love

The meetings start with a short Mass in the chapel in Busch's apartment, followed by reciting the rosary before a Marian shrine that his daughter made.

After a brief reception, guests are invited to sit for dinner. It was Martin's idea to ask participants in turn to share their favorite Bible verse and describe how it has impacted their lives.

"That allows them to talk about their spiritual life, but also the family, the kids, the priests, the conversions. It's really touching," he said.

"There are so many people who break down crying during the event.

"I think it shows the impact of meeting people that they have never met before, but they know who they are, and every day they get up in the morning and fight them instead of fighting the devil. I think that's a big relief."

There are 12 guests for every dinner, with Busch and his wife attending every one. "It was very Eucharistic," the Rev. Ricky Manalo, a member of the Paulist Fathers, who attended one of the dinners in March, told RNS.

"Any type of gathering that centers around food is always a good start to conversation and common ground," he said.

A French chef prepares a Mediterranean-inspired dinner for the guests, and Busch, who is in the wine business, pulls out copious amounts of wine — averaging one bottle per guest — from his Trinitas Cellars. "It dials everybody down," he said.

Many of the wines are named after Marian shrines, but the one titled after Pope Francis is the real conversation starter, Busch said.

"Especially for left/center people, they think, "Oh, this guy doesn't hate the Pope — he makes wine with the Pope's name on it!" he said, adding that he sends cases of the wine to the Pope as well.

Carefully curated guest lists

Busch said he tries to invite six people from both camps, conservative and liberal.

Every guest receives a bio of the other participants before the dinner so "nobody gets surprised," he explained.

No one has canceled last minute, and overall people who attended said they were glad to have come, Busch said.

Conservative guests have included the editor of "First Things" magazine, Russell Ronald Reno, and Catholic commentator and author Sohrab Ahmari, and Father Javier del Castillo, the U.S. vicar of the Prelature of Opus Dei.

The list of progressive Catholic guests who have attended the dinners includes professors from Fordham University but also influential Catholics such as Kerry Robinson, who heads Catholic Charities U.S.A., and Sam Sawyer, the editor in chief of "America Magazine."

Inviting left-leaning Catholics to dinner would have been impossible for Busch without Martin's support, he said.

"I've suggested a number of names to Mr. Busch, and when my friends receive their invitations they almost always write to me and say, ‘Should I go?'

And I say yes," Martin said in an email to RNS. "Afterwards they write to tell me how grateful they were to have gone."

Martin's perspective

The bestselling author of "Building a Bridge: How the Catholic Church and the LGBT Community Can Enter into a Relationship of Respect, Compassion, and Sensitivity," Martin has faced considerable vitriol from conservative faithful on social media and traditional news outlets.

At Pope Francis' request he was also invited to bring his perspective to the Synod on Synodality, born from a three year consultation of Catholics at every level to discuss major issues and challenges facing the Church, which will have its second and last summit in October at the Vatican.

The synod adopts Jesuit-inspired methods to promote thoughtful and respectful dialogue in the Church.

"The Synod has invited us to be a Church that listens to the voice of the Holy Spirit, and how can we listen to the Spirit if we don't first listen to one another?" Martin said.

After posting an article by Busch describing the dinners and their goal to lower tensions in the Church, Martin received many comments on X criticising him for "siding with the devil," and some stopped following him on social media.

"I think the more important feedback was from the participants, all of whom seem to have found it valuable," Martin said.

Soaring polarisation

The issue of polarisation in the church has reached soaring heights, especially in the United States.

Pope Francis directly addressed conservative opposition in the U.S. during an interview with CBS in April, where he described his detractors as being engaged in a "suicidal attitude" by being "closed up inside a dogmatic box."

Francis has also recently taken action against his strongest critics, revoking the pension and Vatican lodgings of the leading voice of U.S. conservatives, Cardinal Raymond Burke, and dismissing fiery papal critic Bishop Joseph Strickland from his diocese in Tyler, Texas.

In early July, the Vatican also excommunicated former U.S. papal envoy Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò for the crime of schism, after the prelate claimed Francis was not the rightful pope.

A 2023 Pew Research Center poll found that Catholics are extremely polarised in the U.S., with 44 percent Democrat or leaning Democrat and 52 percent Republican or leaning Republican.

Moreover, in April, Pew found that partisan affiliation strongly impacts Catholic views of Pope Francis — with 89 percent of U.S. Catholics who are Democrats or lean Democrat having a favorable view of the Pope, compared to only 63 percent of Catholics who are Republican or lean Republican.

It's the most politically polarised view of Pope Francis since Pew began surveying on him.

Reuniting the Church

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) has attempted to address this issue through the "Civilize It" initiative, which includes asking faithful to promise to respect the dignity of every human being, including those who think differently.

"When you're writing the Tweet, imagine Jesus is there with you and when you think through that, question ‘should I do this?'" said Bishop McElroy of the Diocese of San Diego during a panel discussion as part of the initiative.

The Paulist Fathers, a Catholic religious society, organised a summit on polarisation in April where they invited hundreds of Catholic leaders, communicators and thinkers to discuss how to promote dialogue and reconciliation within the Church.

"Polarisation is a first-order crisis," said Manalo, who was among the organisers of the San Diego event.

"We can't talk about anything, about gun control, abortion, gender or ecology, in our country or in our church unless we learn to talk to one another."

Manalo believes religious leaders have been caught up in the cultural upheavals of the past 50 years, which have created a "perfect storm" where tribalism has dominated the public discourse.

When he attended the Napa gathering this summer, he walked up to Busch to suggest further steps and initiatives to ensure the dinners don't become a one-off event.

Busch said that even the "archconservative and traditional" members of the Napa board and guild fully support the dinners and that he plans to continue hosting them.

The calendar for 2024 is full, and dinners are already being planned for 2025. Busch is particularly interested in getting prelates together, including Cardinal Wilton Gregory of Washington.

"We just need to figure out how to become more effective and intentional about bringing the Church together so it's not just a one-night phenomenon," he said.

• First published by Religion News Service
• Claire Giangravé is an author at Religion News Service.

But instead, it clearly appears that more often than not, Catholics - much like the general public - make important decisions on who to vote for, and where to come down on crucial issues, based primarily on the political party they affiliate with and from their cultural, economic and political leanings as being either conservative or liberal.

Putting faith on the back burner is not Christocentric, and is not Catholic.

And so when it comes to the life and death issues facing billions of suffering brothers and sisters - born and unborn, in one's nation, as well as in all other countries - Catholics for the most part, don't look, sound or act much different than the larger secular population. And that's not good.

But in the Gospel, Jesus puts forth to his followers this challenging directive: "You are the light of the world. A city set on a mountain cannot be hidden. Nor do they light a lamp and then put it under a bushel basket; it is set on a lampstand, where it gives light to all in the house."

In a world that is so often darkened by what Pope Francis calls the "culture of indifference," we, the modern-day followers of Jesus, like his ancient followers, are called to radiate the Master's light of love upon the various sufferings of countless brothers and sisters.

But we are taking this mandate too lightly - in a fractured and partial way.

In general, I have long found that very often Catholics with conservative leanings, more or less oppose abortion, infanticide, embryonic stem cell research, euthanasia, promiscuous public school sex education and government attacks on religious liberty and traditional marriage.

And in general, I have long found that very often Catholics with liberal leanings, more or less support nonviolent peace initiatives, demilitarization, drastically cutting military budgets and redirecting those funds to end global hunger and poverty, protecting the environment while working to end human-induced climate change, abolishing capital punishment, welcoming migrants and refugees, opposing racism, and fighting to stop human trafficking.

Each of these efforts is morally commendable - to a point.

But the problem is that when it comes to conservative Catholic social action initiatives and liberal Catholic social action initiatives, it most often boils down to "never the twain shall meet."

And this is disastrous - disastrous for our Catholic faith and for all who will continue to suffer because we prefer biased, ideological, narrow-minded tunnel vision to open-minded, heartfelt Catholic dialogue that places the Gospel and Catholic social teaching as our foundation.

Catholic conservatives and Catholic liberals desperately need to pray and take concrete steps in forging a unity designed to work together to develop holistic nonviolent strategies aimed at protecting the life and dignity of every single human being from conception to natural death - with a preferential option for the poorest and most vulnerable, including our common earth-home.

Instead of ranking the life issues, we need to link them, always bearing in mind that a chain is only as strong as its weakest link.

Thus, all the life-links need to be strong!

Imagine what a moral, political, economic, cultural and religious beacon of light the Catholic Church would be if conservative Catholics and liberal Catholics would come together, in a determined way to learn from each other, to pray together and to work together with Christocentric passion building Pope Francis' "culture of encounter" where all life is respected, protected and nurtured!

• Tony Magliano is an internationally syndicated Catholic social justice and peace columnist. He is available to speak at diocesan or parish gatherings. Tony can be reached at tmag6@comcast.net.

From 1984 to 2002 Copeland served as the financial administrator of the Catholic Archdiocese of Wellington.

He served as a Member of Parliament from 2002 to 2008 entering the House of Representatives as a list MP for the United Future New Zealand Party.

As a member of parliament, Copeland promoted the importance of the family in building a strong nation.

He was a strong advocate for marriage preparation, marriage enrichment programmes and parenting programmes.

He also wanted to develop policy giving greater encouragement to charities and not-for-profit organisations.

Following his 2005 re-election, Copeland gained the support of other social conservatives for his political views.

But he resigned from the United Future Party in May 2007.

With another former United Future list MP, Larry Baldock, he formed the Future New Zealand Party in May 2007. It later changed its name to the Kiwi Party.

He stood for parliament again in 2008 and 2011 but failed to be elected.

Copeland worked for fourteen years in the oil industry, becoming the chief financial officer of BP in New Zealand.

Later, he worked as a self-employed business consultant with corporate and government clients.

Copeland chaired the Inter-Church Working Party on Taxation (1987-2002) and became a member of the Working Party on Registration, Reporting and Monitoring of Charities that led to setting up the New Zealand Charities Commission.

Peter Dunne, retired former leader of the United Future party, said on Tuesday night he was sad to hear of Copeland's passing.

"I think he made a really strong contribution to the party."

Copeland had a strong financial background and stood by his strong moral and ethical views, Dunne said.

His requiem mass will be celebrated at St Gerard's Church and Monastery, Hawker St, Mt Victoria in Wellington on Friday.

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• en.wikipedia.org
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Voris has been critical of Synod Fathers, including Cardinal John Dew of Wellington, who have called for a more pastoral approach in the area of human sexuality.

Voris is the founder of Church Militant and is known worldwide for his show The Vortex, "where lies and falsehoods are trapped and exposed."

The website claims "Michael will give you nothing but the pure truth of Catholicism while exposing the lies and falsehoods that have infiltrated Holy Mother Church."

He conducted speaking tours of New Zealand in 2012 and and again in 2015.

In October 2015 in his series of posts called Synod Profile Voris singled out Dew because he had called for less "offensive" language towards homosexuals, and supported the idea of opening Holy Communion to those in adulterous unions.

Church Militant has consistently been critical of "so-called progressives" at the Synod on the Family, including Dew.

"Dew of New Zealand is yet another Synod Father advocating for pleasant language, especially on homosexuality," wrote Bradley Eli in a post on churchmillitant.com in October last year.

Why did Voris choose this time to reveal his past?

Voris said he decided to reveal the details of his past when he heard the New York archdiocese was gathering information about his past life with the aim of publicly discrediting him and the work he does.

He says he regrets not revealing the nature of his sins before because it was "limiting God" and perhaps not letting his example inspire others in homosexual lifestyles to turn to God for help.

During the Vortex special, Voris apologised to "anyone who is wounded" by the revelations.

He said he "did not intend to deceive" but only "didn't see the need to provide up-close detail of past sins."

Voris says he does not know what ramifications to his apostolate will come of the revelation.

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• lifesitenews.com
• Image: churchmilitant.com

In two public statements, the Archdiocese of Detroit has taken the unusual step of publicly criticizing Real Catholic TV, saying "that it does not have the authorization required under church law to identify or promote itself as Catholic."