Two popes - CathNews New Zealand https://cathnews.co.nz Catholic News New Zealand Wed, 22 Feb 2023 21:32:47 +0000 en-NZ hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 https://cathnews.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/cropped-cathnewsfavicon-32x32.jpg Two popes - CathNews New Zealand https://cathnews.co.nz 32 32 70145804 Two popes are one too many https://cathnews.co.nz/2020/02/13/two-popes-are-one-too-many/ Thu, 13 Feb 2020 07:11:48 +0000 https://cathnews.co.nz/?p=124086 Fr Thomas Reece SJ

In a new book, "From the Depths of Our Hearts: Priesthood, Celibacy, and the Crisis of the Catholic Church," Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI and his co-author, conservative Cardinal Robert Sarah, strongly defend celibacy, arguing that priesthood and sexual abstinence are integrally linked together. He argues that even married priests were supposed to abstain from sex Read more

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In a new book, "From the Depths of Our Hearts: Priesthood, Celibacy, and the Crisis of the Catholic Church," Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI and his co-author, conservative Cardinal Robert Sarah, strongly defend celibacy, arguing that priesthood and sexual abstinence are integrally linked together.

He argues that even married priests were supposed to abstain from sex after ordination.

This would have been news to 11 of the 12 Apostles, including Peter the first pope, who were married.

To say that one must be celibate to be a good priest contradicts reality and is insulting to married priests and ministers in Protestantism and the Eastern churches.

True, after the apostolic period, there were church rules requiring abstinence from sex before saying Mass, but this teaching certainly did not come from Jesus.

It was an imitation of the similar rules for Levitical priests who had to abstain from sex during their time of service in the temple.

This was not a major problem when Mass was only celebrated on Sundays, but when Mass became a daily event, it made marriage impossible.

What we really learn from this new book is the danger of having two popes in the Catholic Church.

Pope Francis is seriously considering a proposal to allow mature married men to be ordained, a proposal that came out of last October's Synod on the Amazon.

The book will make it much more difficult for Francis to do so.

The synod mostly made up of bishops from the Amazon region, argued that the church in that part of the world desperately needs priests, and not enough men are willing to give up marriage and family as the price for ordination.

They voted 128-41 in favour of allowing the ordination of mature married men.

We currently only know of the new book from advanced excerpts in the media.

When the book is published in mid-February, historians and theologians can more thoroughly examine its arguments.

This should be done with respect but also with recognition that Benedict's words no longer carry any papal authority.

From the announcement of his resignation almost seven years ago, people have been speculating about the danger of having two popes in the Catholic Church. Although technically, once he resigned, Benedict lost his papal authority, many people still revere and honour him as pope.

For the most part, Benedict has taken a low profile and not spoken or written much since he retired. However, whenever he has, he has made headlines and discussions of how his views differ from those of Francis have followed. This is problematic for a church that prizes unity in papal teaching.

Part of the problem is that Benedict was poorly advised on how the church should deal with retired popes.

The church clearly needs to rethink its rules for the situation.

We don't want to imprison them, as Pope Celestine's successor did to him, but the church needs to make clear that there is only one pope.

I would suggest five rules for dealing with retired popes to make it clear that there is only one ultimate authority in the Catholic Church.

First

The retired pope should no longer be called pope. Nor should he be called pope emeritus. Once he resigns, he should be referred to as a retired cardinal and the bishop emeritus of Rome. He would have the rank and status of the most senior retired cardinal.

Second

He should return to his original name; he should not be referred to by his papal name.

Obviously, anything he said or did while pope can have his papal name attached to it, but anything he does after retiring would be under his original name.

Thus, Benedict would be called retired Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, bishop emeritus of Rome.

The same would be true of Francis if he retires.

Some monarchies follow this pattern.

When Edward VIII resigned, he became the Duke of Windsor. He was not king emeritus. In the Netherlands, which had two queens resign because of age, they became princesses again after their resignations.

Third

The retired pope should put off the white cassock and return to the black or red robes of a cardinal.

In the Catholic Church, symbols are important. Symbols communicate, they teach.

If you are not the pope, you should not be wearing white.

Having two men wearing white sitting next to each other makes them look like equals when they are not.

Fourth

The fourth issue is where the retired pope should live.

Some felt that Benedict's staying in the Vatican was a mistake.

Some suggested Castel Gandolfo, the pope's summer residence. Certainly, the town, which is about 15 miles from Rome, would like that since it has suffered from a decline in tourism because Francis does not visit.

Some suggested that Benedict return to Germany, but that raises questions about security.

No one wants an ex-pope murdered or kidnapped on their watch.

Would the Vatican or the German government have to provide protection?

There are also legal implications of leaving Vatican territory.

Since Benedict is no longer a sovereign, would he be subject to subpoenas, depositions or extradition in sex abuse cases?

There is also the danger that a location outside the Vatican might become a place of pilgrimage for opponents of the current pope. That would not be good.

Granted these complexities, it would be best to leave the retired pope's residence to be negotiated between the new pope and the retired pope. The new pope, as the retired pope's religious superior, would have the final word.

Fifth

The fifth issue is whether a retired pope can speak on church issues.

The current circumstances are somewhat ironic, since Cardinal Ratzinger, as head to the Vatican doctrine office, was infamous for silencing theologians with whom he disagreed.

It is also ironic to hear liberal academics, who prize freedom of expression, complaining when Benedict speaks or writes.

As a proponent of open and free discussion in the church, I cannot in principle say that retired popes must be silent. I think we must trust in their prudence and respect for the office of the papacy.

In reality, I don't think there is any way to silence a retired pope, especially one like Benedict who spent much of his life as a theologian and teacher.

If the first three suggestions I give above were followed, of course, whatever a retired pope said or wrote would be less threatening, because both legally and symbolically there would be only one pope in the Catholic Church.

  • Thomas Reese SJ is is a senior analyst at Religion News Service, and a former columnist at National Catholic Reporter, and a former editor-in-chief of the weekly Catholic magazine America. First published in RNS. Republished with permission.
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Hawking, Churchill, Queen and now The Two Popes https://cathnews.co.nz/2019/09/02/the-two-popes-movie/ Mon, 02 Sep 2019 08:00:03 +0000 https://cathnews.co.nz/?p=120782

Jonathan Pryce and Anthony Hopkins take a lighthearted look at papal authority in a "buddy" movie. Critics say their performance is a "masterclass" in acting. The Two Popes is a Netflix movie written by novelist and screenwriter Anthony McCarten. Born and raised in New Plymouth, McCarten attended Francis Douglas Memorial College and went on to Read more

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Jonathan Pryce and Anthony Hopkins take a lighthearted look at papal authority in a "buddy" movie.

Critics say their performance is a "masterclass" in acting.

The Two Popes is a Netflix movie written by novelist and screenwriter Anthony McCarten.

Born and raised in New Plymouth, McCarten attended Francis Douglas Memorial College and went on to study for an Arts degree at Massey University and Victoria University of Wellington, where he studied creative writing with Bill Manhire.

McCarten is best known for writing the biographical films The Theory of Everything (Stephen Hawking), Darkest Hour (Winston Churchill), and Bohemian Rhapsody (Queen).

Pope Benedict XVI's decision to resign and subsequent transfer of power to the more progressive Cardinal Bergoglio was the inspiration for director Fernando Meirelles.

Facing scandal and self-doubt, Pope Benedict summons his harshest critic and the future successor to Rome.

He reveals a secret that would shake the foundations of the Catholic Church.

Behind Vatican walls, a struggle commences between both tradition and progress, guilt and forgiveness.

The two very different men confront elements from their pasts to find common ground and forge a future for the Church.

The Two Popes is not a straight drama. There is an element of comedy.

The endearing chemistry between the characters and the movie's breezy tone often clashes with the subject at hand.

The two characters exchange jokes and rib each other.

And the Cardinals make their way into the Vatican for the papal elections to the tune of Abba's Dancing Queen.

Meirelles said during the intro of the film at the world premiere that he was interested in Pope Francis because of his progressiveness and social activism.

"I feel that there's something out of place in the world," he said.

He praises Pope Francis for "building bridges" during a time when certain leaders (he didn't name names) are more interested in dividing people with "physical walls, economic walls and technical walls."

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Benedict and Celestine — two popes who resigned https://cathnews.co.nz/2013/02/22/pope-will-withdraw-into-anonymity-and-silence/ Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:30:13 +0000 http://cathnews.co.nz/?p=39424

There are interesting parallels and connections between Benedict XVI and the last pope freely to resign the papacy, over 700 years ago - Pope Celestine V. Celestine, known as Pietro di Morrone was a hermit monk who lived in isolation in the mountains of Aquila in the Abruzzo region of Italy. When Pope Nicholas IV Read more

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There are interesting parallels and connections between Benedict XVI and the last pope freely to resign the papacy, over 700 years ago - Pope Celestine V.

Celestine, known as Pietro di Morrone was a hermit monk who lived in isolation in the mountains of Aquila in the Abruzzo region of Italy.

When Pope Nicholas IV died in 1292, the cardinals assembled in conclave could not agree on his successor. After two years of deliberation and in-fighting, they received a letter from Pietro di Morrone, warning them that divine vengeance would fall on them if they did not quickly elect a Pope.

At that, the elderly Dean of the College cried out, "In the name of God, I elect Pietro di Morrone!" All agreed, and the Cardinals persuaded him to accept the office. He took the name of Celestine V.

But he was a hermit, and craved the contemplative life. He was no administrator and could not deal with his Curial cardinals. He resigned after 5 months. Dante Alighieri, in his Divine Comedy, placed Celestine in hell for making "the great refusal" of the papacy. But the Church canonized Celestine a saint in 1313.

In 2009, Pope Benedict XVI visited the Church which contains the remains of Celestine. In a gesture which, with hindsight, could hold all sorts of meaning, Benedict placed on the tomb of Celestine the woolen pallium, the symbol of his office as bishop which he had worn during his own papal inauguration.

In the formal letter of his resignation as pope, Celestine cited as the causes for his decision: "The desire for humility, for a purer life, for a stainless conscience, the deficiencies of his own physical strength, his ignorance, the perverseness of the people, his longing for the tranquility of his former life."

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  • Fr. Craig Larkin s.m., who is based in Rome, writing exclusively for CathNews NZ Pacific
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